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We're talking about Hornblower characters as ice cream over at [livejournal.com profile] thehappyreturn. (See #10 on the meme)





  1. After Caudebec but before he left for England again, Hornblower had Bush's sea chest transferred to his possession. He spoke to Hurst, captain now, and between them, they worked out which things Hurst would buy, and which Hornblower (half-ordering and half-volunteering) would take back to England with him for Bush's family. It was only after the chest had been delivered that Hornblower realized that it was not the one that Bush had on the Renown or the one that he had taken with him around the world with the Lydia -- he had known, in the back of his head, but he had never had a chance to sit down and study the chest, think on it.

    This one was new, barely scratched. Bush had lost everything that he had on the Sutherland. Everything he had now had been bought expressly for command of the Nonsuch.



  2. Something that should have been in the chest, but was not: a copy of Norie's Seamanship, cover bent, leaves spotted. Third-hand even when it first came into Bush's possession. A previous owner had been a doodler, but the ink he used was not good quality and had faded, in certain places, to a light brown by the time that Hornblower saw the book as a junior lieutenant.

    Bush rarely looked at it; Hornblower only knew that it existed because Bush had once brought it with him to one of their noontime navigation exercises. He could tell Hornblower the pages at which certain propositions could be found -- he had studied the thing, knew parts of it off by heart -- but he couldn't work out drift to save his life.



  3. Something else that Bush owned and that Hornblower would have given dearly to have had after Caudebec: the watch that Bush had carried with him from the Sutherland onwards. Not all of Bush's captains had Hornblower's luck with prize money, and thus, when Hornblower saw Bush after the Princess, Bush had a fifty guinea gentleman's watch that kept better time than Hornblower's.

    The back of the watch was engraved to a Mr. John Asworth from his Father-in-Law on the Occaision of His Marriage -- Bush had walked into a watchmaker's in Portsmouth and asked for the best, most expensive, and most complete watch they had and had put down hard cash for it. He put down its price in coin, then put guineas on top to cover the fact that he needed it before the tide in the morning, and a few more to cover the inconvenience to both Mr. John Asworth and his generous father-in-law.

    "There could be trouble if Mr. Asworth ever wants his watch," Hornblower remembered saying as he studied it in the cabin of the Lydia. It gleamed softly, was smooth to the touch like the well-kept, well-made piece of equipment that it was. Barely a scratch for a watch that had been carried into Trafalgar and back out again, and it lay, warm in his palm as a living thing, from being carried so close to Bush. "You should have it re-engraved."

    "Eventually," Bush said. "Rather difficult finding a goldsmith on board, sir."

    And in the dark of a ship creeping over the Pacific, they smiled at each other.

    Bush carried the watch on him, but he lost it on the Sutherland all the same: the wounded had been looted before being carried to the infirmary.



  4. When the Lydia came back to England, despite his financial difficulties and other preoccupations, Hornblower scraped together the money to buy Bush a present. A gift to thank him for the fine work he had done putting the Lydia together again, and a little, too, to soothe Hornblower's guilt when the Patriotic Fund awarded him a hundred guinea sword and had nothing for Bush despite the fact that Bush had done the lion's share of the work in fixing the aftermath of the fight with the Natividad, had virtually rebuilt the Lydia and gotten her ready to sail across anything larger than a bathtub.

    So a copy of Morris's Complete Shipbuilding, handsomely bound, with an effusive inscription on the fly leaf. Hornblower later realized the stupidity of the gift -- since when had Bush needed a book, much less one from his captain, to teach him anything about ships? A man even somewhat less kind than Bush would have taken offense, and Hornblower had assumed that Bush never read it, that he had just carried it with him on the Sutherland out of respect and never cracked the cover, but then, there had been a night at the Comte's where they were sitting in the shed together, looking at the boat.

    There was some problem with the ribs that had been bothering both Bush and Brown, and which Hornblower had explained to him in a torrent of hand gestures and half-familiar words. He understood little of it, so was feeling particularly futile and useless with regards to the construction of the boat -- and then, Bush turned to him and said, with a shy smile, that he wished that he had his Morris with him, because he was quite sure the solution would be in there.

    Hornblower remembered, very clearly, the shed, the boat, the light from the lamps and the way that Bush had tried, even though he was the crippled one, the one lost in a country where he did not speak the language, to be kind.



  5. What had, in fact, been in Bush's sea chest: three sets of an ordinary uniforms, a dress uniform made with no allowances for a wooden leg. A navigation kit, still almost entirely new inside its sharkskin case and a greatcoat that was relatively new, of good quality, but had already been put to heavy use. Several sets of right stockings, three right shoes, various small clothes, two nightshirts, a housewife with his hair ribbons and pomade for the queue, a set of brushes, his razors, and a sewing kit, which Hornblower took to be a sign that Bush did not trust his steward to do fine mending.

    A packet of letters from his sisters in Chichester that Hornblower had not intended to read, other than to glance at the address, Captain William Bush, HMS Nonsuch, but ended up reading anyways and then wishing he had not, for they were nothing but discussions of money, of wrangling with prize agents.

    Hornblower could guess at Bush's strained, dutiful replies from what the letters said back to him, and when the contents of Bush's desk were added, there was also a bit of good English paper, several sticks of sealing wax. Right-handed quills. Two well-thumbed, clearly secondhand volumes of The Naval Chronicle that Hornblower knew Bush used as a reference for his correspondence, personal and official, and the letter that had come to inform Bush that he had command of the Nonsuch, carefully tied with twine and kept, apparently, in the back of a locked drawer.

    Later, Hornblower was able to add the sheets and pillow and a coverlet, folded and put on top. Hurst had his own bed linen and did not need Bush's. Hornblower also bought off of Hurst a pair of candlesticks that Bush used whenever he had Hornblower over -- they had dinner by them a few times, and Hornblower remembered admiring them for being surprisingly tasteful and goodlooking.

    That was the end of it, though. Clothes. Two books. A few letters that could have come from particularly intimate creditors. A few more miscellaneous items, candlesticks that had been bought from a pawnshop, and when he realized what he had done and why he had done it, Hornblower mocked himelf for thinking that it would make him feel better to hold his dead friend's old things.

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Date: 2006-03-20 07:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nolivingman.livejournal.com
Oh, you and [livejournal.com profile] black_hound need to talk all the time, yes. I love these, and they make me all mooshy and that last line kills me. And the whole concept that Horatio wants there to be something there, and in the end it's just some meaningless shirts and random books/letters - ouch.

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Date: 2006-03-20 11:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] quigonejinn.livejournal.com
Ahaha. Actually, most of the time, I'm spamming her six times every single bloody day with fic ideas and so forth, and most of the time, she's sweetly like, "[livejournal.com profile] quigonejinn, dear, they didn't actually have _______ back in the day."

And I go, "Oh. :/ Well. Um. What about [insert another stupid idea]?"

I'm glad you liked this fic, though. It's been fermenting for a while, and then [livejournal.com profile] black_hound did some digging last night to figure out what officers did really carry in their sea chests, and I was all !!!!!!!!!!!!! *STEALS LIKE BANDIT*

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Date: 2006-03-21 12:34 am (UTC)
ext_8683: (Kalmar Nyckel)
From: [identity profile] black-hound.livejournal.com
HAHAHAHA. As if I don't spam you like 20394820384 times about my tall ship love.

XD


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Date: 2006-03-21 01:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nolivingman.livejournal.com
Heeee. I am so glad you two found each other.

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Date: 2006-03-21 06:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] quigonejinn.livejournal.com
I make off like a bandit, really, a far as I'm concerned. I get details about tall ships and a sounding board for my ideas, and she gets . . . the most typo-ridden e-mails in the history of fandom.

*dance at the D'Arcy*

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Date: 2006-03-21 06:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] quigonejinn.livejournal.com
Ahahahaha. Whatever. I'm always like OMG TELL ME MORE TELL ME MORE *SHAKES YOU, DOES BEST IMPERSONATION OF THAT CHICK FROM THE GREASE SONG*

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Date: 2006-03-21 01:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_oggy_/
so, what do officers really carry in their sea chests?

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Date: 2006-03-21 06:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] quigonejinn.livejournal.com
What BH said last night (since she hasn't answered), among other things:

- a set of navigational equipment: an octant (BH says that a sextant is still a few years off, though we see HH and Bush using them by LtH), a chart set, which is basically a sharkskin case with a rule, dividers, a drawing compass, pens, pencils.

- possibly personal medical equipment like lancets, though some officers did and others didn't

- telescope if he had the money for it

- sword and pistols, including ball & wad for the pistols

- Falconer's Marine Dictionary and appropriate naval manuals from that era.

- 2 uniforms minimum: duty and dress plus appropriate small clothes and footwear

- writing paper and ink and pen and wax to seal it up.

- housewife with grooming stuff including ribbons for queue

- towels and personal linens for his cot.

- cigars, recreational aids XD

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Date: 2006-03-21 06:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_oggy_/
hehhe, recreational aids....no comment

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Date: 2006-03-21 04:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] quigonejinn.livejournal.com
Carpenter's tools that he'd use when tinkering with the reeve lines on the tiller and so forth, 1001 Creative Ways to Tie Your Neck Cloth scented candles for the baby boyfriend, egg-hatching equipment, etc.

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Date: 2006-03-21 04:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_oggy_/
you made coffee almost go out my nose.
i suppose those scented candles were purchased and the imported goods mercantile located on pier one?

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Date: 2006-03-21 05:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] quigonejinn.livejournal.com
Same place he got the patterns to make the curtains and the cushions for HH's cabin, yes. :>

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Date: 2006-03-20 07:23 pm (UTC)
ext_8683: (Bush Caudebec)
From: [identity profile] black-hound.livejournal.com
Oh man, I love these. &heart;

It never occured to me that he would have needed a new chest after the Sutherland but, OF COURSE. And the watch. I love it and I'm happy that he had such a luxurious shiney thing.

The little bits and pieces are just so grand. The book that HH buys him & Bush being kind, the candlesticks, the mention of single stockings and single shoes.

And I'm struck that Bush carried his material life around with him in a box. All his wordly possessions. And HH realizing that what was in the box didn't make up the sum of what was Bush. Maybe a lesson for him, because he has all sorts of shiney at Smallbridge, including the shiney upper class wife, and none of it ever seems to be enough.

shiny wife. *makes snorty disparaging noises*

Date: 2006-03-20 11:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] quigonejinn.livejournal.com
It never occured to me that he would have needed a new chest after the Sutherland

That was the part that dragged me out of bed this morning because I was making up all these terrible, terrible emo stories, and then I realized that Bush would have any of these things because of those WRETCHED LOOTING Frog bastards ROBBING HIM WHILE HE WAS HELPLESS AND PRE-STUMPY.

And yeah.

You're exactly right. There's just something deeply resonant about the notion Bush carrying everything he owns in the world with him aboard ship, isn't there? It emphasizes how deeply he's tied to the wooden girls. They're everything that he's ever loved, the only thing he's ever known. When he comes aboard one of them, it just makes sense that he gives them everything.

Poor Hornblower. Why hasn't someone written a paintastic AU where Napoleon never rises again for the 100 Days Reign and HH stays in France with Marie?
ext_8683: (Bush wounded on deck)
From: [identity profile] black-hound.livejournal.com
Looting the wounded was a masterful stroke because that shit happened all the time.

And in Flying hurt/comfort Colours he shows up with nothing, same as everyone else. And he's a big guy. I'm thinking there wasn't something hidden in the Comte's cupboard that was going to fit him as is. I'll bet those household women had to sew him up a set of regular civilians trousers and waistcoat in addition to the Dutch uniform and find one shoe to fit. :(

*has new icon thanks to you, glees*

Date: 2006-03-21 06:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] quigonejinn.livejournal.com
Oh man. Oh man. And you so totally know that the first day that he gets properly dressed in order to go and get his stump fixed? It' the first day that he spends out of bed in God knows how long, and you can just imagine how Bush, lonely, still weak, frightened even though he won't admit it, is just yearning for the comfort of his old uniform -- the ritual of putting on his stock, knotting his neckcloth, shrugging into his jacket.

And all he gets is a shirt, civilian trousers.

And yeah. FC is just the biggest h/c fic in the world, isn't it? *is re-reading the scene just before HH gets introduced to the Comte properly for the first time and is getting Bush settled into hot blankets and djkglhdf* Hornblower notices that Bush is "snoring faintly at the base of his throat."

Swear to God, people. How do you not see the potential for gay here? HORNBLOWER IS SO FREAKING OBSESSIVE ABOUT BUSH IN THIS. SO. OBSESSED.

(Also. I wonder whether you could string togehter an acceptable fic idea that HH's obsession with watching Bush sleep dates from this period -- the driving need to make sure that Bush is comfortable, that Bush is cared-for. Bush & sleep pops up a couple times in HH's brain before, I know, but we don't get HH peeping on Bush, do we, until post-FC?)

Re: *has new icon thanks to you, glees*

Date: 2006-03-21 02:43 pm (UTC)
ext_8683: (Bush wooden leg)
From: [identity profile] black-hound.livejournal.com
The civilian vs uniform setup just reeks of clothing porn. *G*

And trousers made for a cripple at that. They would have to be made one leg shorter than the other, because at this point he is using his knee with the stump out behind, and you couldn't have all that material loose flapping about. At least later on he can wear regular trousers with legs of the same length that will help hide the whole mess somewhat.

And good point about this is the first time we see HH watching Bush sleep. And yeah, maybe this is the genesis of that. Of HH trying to look after Bush in his own cracked out way.

I don't think he watches Bush sleep in HH in the infirmary. I think he just shows up with THE FRUIT BASKET and Bush is awake.

Re: *has new icon thanks to you, glees*

Date: 2006-03-21 04:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] quigonejinn.livejournal.com
At least later on he can wear regular trousers with legs of the same length that will help hide the whole mess somewhat.

!!!!! Man oh man. Would they realize that's how the trousers would have to be made? I'm assuming that there's a reasonable probability that somebody connected in the houehold would have had a husband/brother/son come home crippled from the wars, but.

Mmm. Clothing porn. HH helping Bush back to bed and helping him get settled in. HH has his uniform, doesn't he? But I don't think Bush has his, though I need to check that bit at the end where they all put their uniforms after they've got the Endor. Still, though. *mentally ponders the porn of HH wearing some little thing that goes with his uniform out of convenience's sake and HH coming to sit by Bush's bed and Bush recognizing it and reaching out to touch it and HELLO PORN*

*takes notes, too, about how HH's ability to sleep during that carriage ride correlates exactly with how well Bush is sleeping*

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Date: 2006-03-21 04:27 pm (UTC)
ext_8683: (Bush wounded on deck)
From: [identity profile] black-hound.livejournal.com
So yeah, when he's well enough to try and get out of bed he might get handed a pair of trousers that are unequal in length. Or put on trousers with two full legs and one of them is all empty at the bottom and he has to tie the excess up in a knot to keep it out of the way.

I'm just keying in on fall front trousers because those are pretty typical undress pants and working pants at his point in time instead of the knee breeches.

Bush recognizing it and reaching out to touch it and HELLO PORN

I swear the best line to come into the fandom in ages was that one you wrote in Undertow about how if you want to have sex with Bush you touch some part of his uniform. That makes me go O.O every time with the trueness of that statement.

I also had a stray wild thought about that flannel nightshirt he's wearing during the carriage ride. Where the hell did that come from? Someone somewhere along the line had to be kind to him, probably because he was an officer. Because my guess would be that after the surgery he would have been left in his shirt as that garment was a multi-use sort of thing. Men also wore their shirts as nightshirts -- same garment. They period ones are actually quite long (coming above the knee) for that multi-use reason.

Sleeping porn. I love it.

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Date: 2006-03-21 04:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] quigonejinn.livejournal.com
They period ones are actually quite long (coming above the knee) for that multi-use reason.

*tucks information away, blesses you for being the font of information and kindness that you are*

Sleeping porn is such a great encapsulation for the HH/WB relationship dynamic, man. HH, the watchful, the man who can't sleep. WB, not conscious or speaking, but still effective and vitally important to HH.

Plus. If HH starts giving him a handjob while he sleeps, you get to write about the hot, hot, hot moment where WB realizes that he's getting some from his captain and has to make a choice between opening his eyes and acknowledging all of it or keeping them closed and enjoying the ride maintaining plausible deniability.

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Date: 2006-03-21 05:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_oggy_/
don't forget the bagillion times bush tells horatio: "dude, go to sleep like now cuz you're wrecked."

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Date: 2006-03-21 07:18 pm (UTC)
ext_8683: (Default)
From: [identity profile] black-hound.livejournal.com
And doesn't HH remark about Bush taking naps? I know the one time with the Peeping Tom incident, but I think it might be mentioned in the text an additional time.

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Date: 2006-03-21 07:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] quigonejinn.livejournal.com
There are probably others, but I know there's a mention for sure near the infamous "private business" comment in Hotspur. :>

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Date: 2006-03-21 07:52 pm (UTC)
ext_8683: (Bush in hammock)
From: [identity profile] black-hound.livejournal.com
I'm gonna guess that the who, what, when, where, how of sleeping stands out in their heads because it is a precious thing on board these ships.

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Date: 2006-03-21 08:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] quigonejinn.livejournal.com
What with the way that Bush fixates on it and the way that HH's FIRST THOUGHT for why Bush might be a tad slow at responding to being summoned is "nap!" -- :D The notion of Bush catnapping throughout the day is pretty hilarious and adorable.

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Date: 2006-03-20 07:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_oggy_/
*sniffs* aw, these are so sweet and so sad. as an archaeologist i want there to be more than that in his seachest, but it's so heartwrenching and beautiful that there isn't.
*applauds*

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Date: 2006-03-20 11:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] quigonejinn.livejournal.com
Ahah. Well. The watch is floating around somewhere. And we can pretend that the book is in some marginalia collector's sticky hands.

William Bush = singlehanded Hornblower emo generation machine. :D

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Date: 2006-03-20 08:37 pm (UTC)
cleverthylacine: a cute little thylacine (Default)
From: [personal profile] cleverthylacine
Oh, lord, this is beautiful.

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Date: 2006-03-20 11:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] quigonejinn.livejournal.com
I still think that your "please remain on the line" icons beat out anything and everything I've ever written for sheer awesome. :D

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Date: 2006-03-20 09:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] iansmomesq.livejournal.com
Oh my, but those are beautiful. Um, you and Hound need to talk more, much more, about um, ficcy things, because look what happens when you do. Bush's life in a box, but it's not. *sigh* *reads again*

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Date: 2006-03-20 11:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] quigonejinn.livejournal.com
I remember back in seventh grade or something where we did an exercise about bringing our lives into class in a box or something? And man, yeah. I got to thinking about what a profoundly middle class notion that is, and Bush just. isn't. middle class.

Glad to hear, by the way, that the weather is starting to thaw where you are. :)

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Date: 2006-03-21 12:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] randomalia.livejournal.com
I don't even know what to say. This is perfect. :x

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Date: 2006-03-21 06:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] quigonejinn.livejournal.com
:x I am so freaking obsessed with the retarded details of Bush's life. The next thing you know, I'll be making lists of things like "What William Bush ate on August 3, 1801" or "William Bush's Top 5 Favorite Parts of a Ship."

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Date: 2006-03-21 10:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] randomalia.livejournal.com
Ahahaha. :D Number one is her captain!

The warmth of the watch fills me with glee. I can just imagine it in H's hand and him knowing it was warmed with Bush's body heat. Also the book of Complete Shipbuilding! So like Horatio to give a gift and then feel embarrassed about it, but I think Bush would have been really touched (and also embarrassed). The other thing is that the whole fic echoes with the absence of Bush -- you've got all these tangible things, the warm, smooth watch, the worn books and papers, the twine -- and it just heightens that absence and what happened to him.

Bush/Embarassment = my true OTP.

Date: 2006-03-21 04:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] quigonejinn.livejournal.com
I can just imagine it in H's hand and him knowing it was warmed with Bush's body heat.

I cannot tell a lie. If you asked me to draw stick figures for a storybook for a kindergarten class, you would end up with little stick figures with giant hats and hearts drifting in between them and text that goes, "Once upon a time, there was a captain who was a little crazy, but he was in love with his friend who wasn't . . . "

<3333 And you are too nice.

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Date: 2006-03-21 02:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lamis-p.livejournal.com
Hornblower remembered, very clearly, the shed, the boat, the light from the lamps and the way that Bush had tried, even though he was the crippled one, the one lost in a country where he did not speak the language, to be kind. : You have broken my heart!


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Date: 2006-03-21 06:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] quigonejinn.livejournal.com
*laughs, hands you the glue* I am sorry. It was only a very cheap writerly trick. :(

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Date: 2006-03-21 09:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lamis-p.livejournal.com
I don’t care how cheap it was, it shattered my heart in little bitty pieces.

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