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In order of needing to be done:

- writing more of the smutpit with Kano.
- completing the Qui-Gon saga with Kano
- zipping up music folders for music post
- Calrissian fic for hetgenathon
- fic about how being stretched thin/population decline has affected the Jedi, idea from Imadra.
- expansion of Qui-Gon teenager birthplanet fic
- rewriting Qui-Gon/Anakin and Obi-Wan AU fic
- putting down thoughts about Jedi assignment and politicking to get them -- potential fic from that.
- baby Qui-Gon toddling around and raising hell from neotoma

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Date: 2005-10-19 05:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] quigonejinn.livejournal.com
It would, you know. I think it probably changed Jedi selectivity about the kinds of missions that they'd send their people on, and it probably politicized the entire process immensely. :> It might be possible to speculate that's when the Order really started getting into bed with the Chancellor's office -- that's where the really vital assignments are going to be, in a sense, but yeah.

Interesting stuff, there.

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Date: 2005-10-19 05:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imadra-blue.livejournal.com
Oh, I agree, but the Jedi's reactive philosophy didn't really help matters, imho. Then again, proactive can be just as bad. No matter what, my impression from reading some summaries from Lucas is that the Jedi's protection to the galaxy had made it so spoiled, that the Republic was being eaten away from within and the Jedi weren't able to sotp that. They were, after all, mortal.
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Date: 2005-10-19 06:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imadra-blue.livejournal.com
I'm not familiar with Gibbon, but keep in mind I've been out of college for years because of financial difficulty, so I'm hardly overeducated.

Well, I'm basing what I said off the introduction to the Clone Wars novels that was written by Lucas himself. He basically states that the Republic was corrupt because the Jedi had offered it too much peace and protection. My impression was that Palaptine took advantage of this and totally swung it in his favor acerbated circumstances. Things would have to be really looked at hard to see if the Republic would have survived if the Jedi had and the Sith defeated by RotS. It could go either way. And Anakin, for all his faults, had a point about someone taking charge and getting people to listen in AotC. I believe that could have helped the Republic. Unfortunately, the guy who did that was UNREDEEMABLY EVIL. XD

I should dig that intro up and type it into LJ for others' reading perusal, to see if maybe I'm reading it wrong or something.

Ahahaha, you're fine. I should be writing Batman Begins pr0n, right now. *slinks off to make Bruce and Ducard do naughty things*

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Date: 2005-10-19 02:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] neotoma.livejournal.com
'Too much peace and protection'? pffft.

How about the fact that it's a society, and societies advance, flower, and decline in predictable cycles. Ten thousand years of stability is quite an achievement.

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Date: 2005-10-20 05:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imadra-blue.livejournal.com
Hey, don't look at me. XD I agree with you in theory and practice, but these were Lucas's thoughts, not mine. I'm gonna type it up so you guys can see it and decide for yourself.

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Date: 2005-10-19 06:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] quigonejinn.livejournal.com
That comment was too wanky and pointless to live. It suffices to say that I'm not sure that the Republic would have fallen if Anakin hadn't gone ebil. Mace was kickin' Palpatine's ass pretty hardcore for a while, and who knows how much longer the Empire would have held together if the Sith hadn't been around to stir the drink? Sure, the Jedi might have ended up being kind of awful semi-dictators, but you wouldn't have had the Death Star, and you probably would have kept the semblance of parliamentary government.

I cannot believe that I spent that much time wanking about some dude's theory of Roman history and then spelled his name wrong. CHRIST. SHOOT ME NOW.

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Date: 2005-10-19 06:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] quigonejinn.livejournal.com
... although a quick Google shows I may not have spelled it wrong after all. DAMN THOSE TERMINAL S'S. I should just go to bed right now.

*does*

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Date: 2005-10-19 06:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imadra-blue.livejournal.com
Well, I already commented, but I didn't think you were wanky. Then again, I'm not really familiar with Roman history. I confess to being undereducated at this point (but going back to school next year! *cheers*).

Oh, I don't think it would automatically have fallen, I just think there was something wrong with it beyond Palpatine, and Palpatine just took advantage of it.

*pets and doesn't shoot*

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Date: 2005-10-19 06:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] quigonejinn.livejournal.com
gadsflj ahahah. It has nothing to do with being undereducated, my friend, and far, far, far more to do with the fact that I am pretentious bitch who like sto pretend that I know more than I actually do.

Anybody who isn't quite as nice as you or who actually knows what the fuck they're talking about re: Roman history would read this conversation would be like "Who is this Quiggie bitch, and does she actually have more than two brain cells to rub together on a frosty night?"

BED. NOW. *FALLS IN, WISHES YOU GOOD LUCK ON THE QUI-GO DUCARD/BATSY*

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Date: 2005-10-20 06:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imadra-blue.livejournal.com
I didn't see anything particularly pretentious in your comment, and nothing bitchy. Don't worry so much. Despite my weird tendency to think everyone sekritly hates me, I really am not hyper-sensitive. XD

Nice? Me? Not been feeling like such a nice person lately, but thanks.

I'm typing the thing up tomorrow for you, so everyone can see what i'm referring to, and then you can tell me if I'm reading it wrong. XD

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