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[quigonejinn]

- Qui-Gon is a deeply private guy -- his preferred method of teaching a Padawan is to ask you to watch him v, v, v, glosely, and hten he'll discuss his actions with you later, but he's a deeply private individual. He doesn't want you watching this reserve. Obi-Wan finds a data entry padd (what the hell are they called in SWverse) with stuff that Xanatos has dug up/clues that he's put together Qui-Gon -- deeply, fascinatingly vivid stuff. Sort of a working log that's as much a window into Xanatos as it is into Qui-Gon

It's like HBP! But Obi-Wan he knows that they're by Xanatos, which just adds to his own *_* about whether or not he should read them.

On the one hand, Qui-Gon! Privacy! Respect for the master! On the other end, his own burning curiosity about not only Qui-Gon but Xanatos, and Jedi imperative for knowledge, etc, etc, and the nagging irritation with how STUBBORN and IRRATIONAL and just STUPID Qui-Gon is being by so religiously hiding everything in his life from him.

Remaining questions int he air: what's the resolution? How does Obi-Wan resolve the dilemma? Why does Qui-Gon want to hide thing sso religiously?

- storytelling in the Tattooine desert: there's the story of Why the Jedi Master Wears his Hear Long, How the Ungainly Padawan Got A Haircut and the Story of It Creeped His Padawan Out 30 Years Later, the Story of the Prince (for when Qui-Gon goes to see Obi-Wan off on one of his trips to see Luke, about the Prince who rode off into the desert on [insert ethnic sounding name of animal here], and at the end of the Story,k Obi-Wna is like "... what happened to the Prince? How does the story end?" And Qui-Gon looks at him, solemnly, and tell shim that the prince died in the desert), and Obi-Wan asking Qui-Gon whether Qui-Gon would have had sex with him had he asked him to while he was a padawan. And Qui-Gon is like "... yes." And it's obvious how bad and shameful the whole thing would have been. The layers of relationships.

- Knightfic crackfic retardation. I'd have to learn more about medieval warfare or whatever, but oh! A knight owing direct fealty to either a monastic order or to Lord Valorum, Obi-Wan is the little eensy page who has been with him for just about forever, and jokes about how Qui-Gon looks like his mount and Obi-Wan trotting behind him with his horse, and the big plot could be how Qui-Gon loses his joust at the tournament with a shadowy mysterious superglamorous cloaked knight whose sheild is unrelieved black with a streak of black down the middle?

Qui-Gon and his devotion to the Holy Ghost as opposed to either Christ or a certain saint ot the Virgin Mary? Stories of how Qui-Gon is a mighty warrior who has fallen out of favor with the court. Working in his fields.

Comments

[neotoma.livejournal.com]

Hmmm, intersting idea about Obi-Wan and the journal. And I'm not sure that Qui-Gon is private from the sense that he wants to keep stuff to himself; he seems like he might be the sort who doesn't talk about himself because he finds other people so much more intersting.

I'd love to see more storytelling in the Tatooine desert. I really wonder what sort of folktales the Jedi would tell each other. What is their oral culture like?

The crack!fic... well, Qui-Gon as a Templar or a Hospitaler could work, but that's a lot of research. I think a knight with a small enough holding would wind up working his own field, because he had to; he'd be hard to distinguish from a small-holder in some respects. I'm not sure if devotion to the Holy Spirit instead of Mary or Jesus occured at all, but possibly could have happened, especially if Qui-Gon is a follower of a teaching tainted with Catharism... which could get him in LOTS of trouble very quickly.

jedi folklore. man.

[quigonejinn.livejournal.com]

I imagine that the Jedi have, at the very least, some of those enlightening trianing stories that they tell out to younglings. And very irritated-looking Padawans.

You know, I can see Qui-Gon as being either. There's the positive, more charitable explanation you've put forward, and then there's the, you know, slightly more asshole-ish version. Either would work for the story -- like, if it's because Qui-Gon doesn't like to talk about himself, it would be a little self-revelation about how badly he misjudges himself and why he ends up messing up so badly with Xanatos, etc.

Re: the crack!fic. After about half an hour of thinking, I decided that the easiest way to write it would be to send it to out-and-out-fiction -- the decrease in research time required notwithstanding, you'd get the benefit of being able to play with political structures so that they mirrored the ones in Jedi-land. Mmmm, crack.

Re: jedi folklore. man.

[neotoma.livejournal.com]

He could be both -- deeply private AND convinced other people are more interesting. And it's always fascinating to see how others perceive you, because noone is completely self-aware.

I wonder about Jedi stories. Part of the way folktales are so long lasting is because they really do touch something in the human psyche. Attempts to turn them into fables with a moral don't always work so well.

Crack!fic is good. You could do it as a fusion, which are always fun. It's just that feudalism is so fascinating from an anthropological standpoint...

Re: jedi folklore. man.

[rhoddlet.livejournal.com]

Any recs for getting up to speed quickly on feudalism? The crack!fic just won't leav eme alone, so I should do the research, particularly since I've got access to a reasonably good university library.

Re: jedi folklore. man.

[neotoma.livejournal.com]

Well, there is always wikipedia, which will give you the bare outlines. I think any text on medieval European history should at least give a summary of how things worked.

A good history of the Kingdom of Jerusalem should give you lots of information on the Knights Templar and the Knights Hospitaller if you still want Qui-Gon to be part of militant chivalric order (or if you want to write Kingdom of Heaven fic...). On the other hand, he could simply be a knight who holds his fief from an abbey instead of a lord.

Re: jedi folklore. man.

[a-blue-moon-cat.livejournal.com]

Since you have the uni library, check with the reference librarians, and also check the uni bookstore to see if there are any history courses being offered this quarter/semester on anything medieval, and look at the book lists for those. Then you could check with the professor(s) of said courses, and get some reference items from them. Good luck! Also, if there's an SCA chapter on campus or in your city/town, check with them--they can be helpful. :)