runnning list of fic i crave.
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quigonejinn- Kingston porn. I will not pretend there is anything redeeming about my desire to see this. I just want to see Bush and Hornblower get it on, hardcore, in either the fanciest digs that they've been in in their entire lives or, you know. After they're done screwing everything in the fanciest digs that they've been in in their entire lives.
- SHEERNESS FIC. Pages and pages of Sheerness fic, both pornographic and not. I want to know where Bush lived, what sort of letters he wrote, what he ate, whether he wrote to his family, everything. I want to hear about him building a boat for himself, kthx.
- You know that Hornblower had his flag captain over for more than one dinner while they were on the Nonsuch. You just know it. And you also know that he's got all kinds of high-flying foods in his larder. And you just know that this can either go to total porn or to total sap. Bonus points for getting both, as well as Bush working on curtains, etc, for his cabin because he didn't have a chance to get things properly fitted out in the rush of getting the Nonsuch ready for ea. And of Hornblower watching him sew while he drinks port and trying to convince himself that this isn't a) disgustingly domestic and b) somehow, making him very happy.
- Post-Commodore typhus fic, thanks. Bush, freaking the fuck out because he has to take the squadron south before the ice comes and he doesn't know whether the boyfriend will live or die? Whehter the boyfriend has already died or not, and the sheer unnervingness of having to have Hornblower declared not fit to command?
- Book Edrington, actually, plz. Book Edrington and Hornblower. Gen will do, particularly if it involves them and studiously skirting around the ugly things that they both saw in war, but bonus points for him bending Hornblower over some fine evening.
- Continued, sort of from the first: post-HH Edrington in dirt and mud and general nastiness of the land campaigns in Europe.
- Hot, filthy dirty fic about Edrington and Archie getting it on during the shipbound parts of F&L because, man oh man. Look what a bitch Archie is to Edrington, and look, look, look how he prefaces it with lip-biting and eye-batting. *__________*
- Kennedy familyfic.
- Commander Kennedy LKU!
- Hornblower bringing confirmation of Kennedy's death as a mutineer. And possibly Archie's sea chest. And having to explain to them that their boy gave up his good name and the mental ease of his family for, you know. Hornblower.
- Properly snippy, conservative Archie Kennedy. He kind of is an old-fashioned sassy bitch, you know. Remember the comment about how you just don't execute kings? I know that the executiou of Louie Louie shocked England, but seriously. Look at what a stickler he is for shipboard discpline, and see, too the catty, behind-the-back bitchfits about Bush, the sassing to Edrington about his men being too pretty to fight, the EXPRESSSION on his face when he sees the nasty, poorly turned out French troops in F&L OMFG AHAHAHHA LOOK AT HIM LOOK AT HIM.
Your face is gonna get stuck that way. :(
And. Ahaha. Holy fuck, how did I never notice the fact that he bites his lip, looks down, and practically BATS HIS EYELASHES at Edrington befre he insults Edrington's men by calling them TOO GOODLOOKING TO FIGHT? And then, when Edrington speaks, how he staaaaaaaaaaares at Edrington for a long moment before turning back to look -- not at Hornblower, who's translating for everyone -- at them nasty French soldiers.
Horatio, baby, your girlfriend is flashing her panties at the Army.
Also. PS: Horatio, if Archie actually knew life-aving Spanish, he'd be able to figure out the French that Charette was speaking. <3 - Archie Kennedy with older brothers in the Army. Specifically, him talking about how they ate up all the money for commissions, so he had to set to sea as a lowly midshipman.<3 Basically, I want a clear-eyed, unsentimental convincing picture of his family, thanks, as well as an explanation of why he's such a total BITCH to Edrington.
Aside from, you know, wanting to catch him some Major My Lord spunk. - Bush and Kenendy fic, and no, I don't even mean slash. The two of them aren't exactly good friends at the start of Mutiny. There's Kennedy with his bitchery, and then, as
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randomalia has pointed out, Bush later slapping Kennedy down by being like, "Bring your bitch to heel, boy" to Hornblower. *
And yet, Kennedy probably spends a hell of a lot more time talking to Bush before he knocks off than he spends tlaking to Hornblower, and once Retribution is over, it's Bush who's taking care of Horatio. I want to see this evolution.
* Note that Edrington does the same thing, actually, in F&L. After Archie sasses him, he address Hornblower and only Hornblower while he rubs their faces in the fact that he's an Earl and they, um, are not. And Hornblower looks TOTALLY BEFUDDLED as to why he'd get sassed like that after Edrington seemed reasonably friendly and hgdkjf. That little twitch of the eybrow while Archie watches him go. I can't stop LAUGHING, and oh my God.[21:22]
quigonejinn: And I'm just like "... wow, Archie is a manslut."
[21:22]stella_belli: Archie = fagzor
Hornblower/Bush
Edrington
GERARD OMG
Archie Kennedy
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it's true, I never shut up. :/
Date: 2006-02-16 03:06 am (UTC)I can't even recall what Archie actually says about the not killing kings, but that's totally lifted from Hamlet. And I like that parallel (as I've already rambled on about), esp in light of the fact that Hamlet himself was a prince in a privileged position and pretty much toyed with fools. The fact that Archie is actually of lesser rank than these men around him - the acting lt next to Hornblower, the smackdown from Bush for being only the 4th lt - just makes that really interesting.
I read your SW fic and I'll have to comment on it later, because OW. Am feeling incoherent. But it's a wonderful Obi-Wan. <3
argh, typos.
Date: 2006-02-16 04:12 am (UTC)And yeah. Archie in that scene is fascinating. On the one hand, he can't make it any clearer that he thinks the French are slovenly and disgusting and can't be efficient. On the other, he gives Edrington shit about his men being impeccably turned out. I'm willing to put the taunting of Edrington Edrington down to the fact that he wants Edrington so bad, but still. It's weird.
Randomly. There's also his tone of VOICE when he's bitching to Horatio about Edrington buying his commission at the end of the scene. There's a little malice in it, but then the pitch of his voice goes up at the end in this way at the end in a way that I'm just like *_____* don't even to tell me that there wasn't at least one Army/Navy blowjob in the cabin that Edrington took over from the first lieutenant since he's not only a major, but also an earl. *_____________*
I blame this sudden burning desire to write Archie-fic on you. He was never this interesting before you started pointing out how much he bought into Navy hierarchy and was a fascinating parallel to Hamelt and so on and so forth.
Hamelt the tasty snack <3 <3 <3
Date: 2006-02-16 05:15 am (UTC)The idea of Archie having a thing for men in the upper echelons of society: *____* Yeah.
I keep meaning to ask you what definition of gillie you used in that fic a while back. I know it's not the scottish gameskeeper/whatever but I can't find the other one.
*WEEPS AT HER FINGERS*
Date: 2006-02-16 05:30 am (UTC)There be porn there. Hot, hot, hot, dirty, terrible, awful, possibly completely unrealistic class porn about Kennedy getting down on his knees in front of Edrington while Horatio is up on watch on deck overhead on deck or something. Edrington pointing out that Kennedy is getting dust on the knees of his breeches right as Kennedy leans forward and opens his smouth and Edrington puts his hand behind Kennedy's head? I have no fucking clue how to make this work in the confines of a ship, but ;lgkhd;lkj
Also, the idea of Kennedy having an older brother or two in the Army intersects disgustingly well with this. And if you played it right, Edrington telling Kennedy to take care of Horatio could be pretty nifty, too. XD
I used the third definition out of the OED:
*WEEPS FOR THE LOVELY PORN*
Date: 2006-02-16 07:06 am (UTC)And I love the idea of Archie having older brothers who got bought their commissions in the army -- and maybe he wanted something different. Maybe he does look down his nose at the Army. He seems almost out of place on land. Man, now I want Archie-family fic too.
Thankee for the definition. <3
Re: *WEEPS FOR THE LOVELY PORN*
Date: 2006-02-16 08:01 am (UTC)Apparently Earl of Cassillis #11 was Archibald Kennedy #2 and, also, a Royal Navy Captain. He got the rank in 1757 and didn't knock off until 1794. Granted, he only came into the title in 1792, but if you wanted to write Archie family fic,
1. You could so totally pretend that Archie's father was one of Archibald Kennedy #2's (not in the Peerage guide's) younger brothers.
2. You could so totally pretend that our Archie was named after uncle Archibald
3. You could also reasonably guess that Uncle Archie was filthy stinking rich from prize money -- his own father had been customs collector in NEW YORK CITY, so it's not like there was some kind of fortune floating around beforehand, but was wealthy enough by 1790 to pay for his son to "raise an indpendent company of foot," whatever the hell that means, two years before he came into the title
4. You could easily think that either Archie's own father was prosperous enough or that some of that largess had spilled over to Archie's older brothers so that they were able to buy their billets or whatever. (In Sharpe, purchasing a lieutenantship costs something like 150 pounds.)
5. And that when it comes time for little Archie, his namesake, to figure out what the hell he's going to do with his life -- intsead of money, he asks his uncle to get him a spot in the Navy because he wants to go to sea and prove himself, not buy his way.
6. And in 1793, a year before he dies, uncle Archie finds a place for his namesake with an old friend that he served with back in the day, a fine captain by the name of Keene.
*PLEBE HARDCORE, FLUNKS EXAM*
yes times a trillion XD
Date: 2006-02-16 09:07 am (UTC)6. And in 1793, a year before he dies, uncle Archie finds a place for his namesake with an old friend that he served with back in the day, a fine captain by the name of Keene.
*______* BRILLIANT. Especially being the nephew - I didn't want to put him in the immediate family, cos there really isn't a place for him. But being the nephew just gives it more resonance, that he has a namesake who succeeded in the Navy before him (and dies the year that Horatio goes to sea; I love that). And he wants to go to sea, to separate himself. It works so well. Also because Keene's ship isn't where he wants to be. He's almost beside himself with glee when they get to go to the (bloody) Indy.
I wonder if the raising of an 'independent company of foot' means an army type thing.
And, it's a pity your exam isn;t on 18th century England. <3
Re: yes times a trillion XD
Date: 2006-02-16 03:21 pm (UTC)It's actually a pretty complicated premise because it depends on time and circumstance as to how an independent company would function. Sometimes they are used as local militia or they function outside of the general army hierarchy and chain of command. And sometimes they are absorbed into another regiment as a levies.
But bottom line -- to raise one of these companies took $$$$$
Re: yes times a trillion XD
Date: 2006-02-16 08:02 pm (UTC)I've only got what Hornblower mentions at the end of FC for reference, and there had to have been inflation, but holy fuck!
What the bleep would you raise a foot company for in Scotland in 1790, though? "COME, WE MUST RAISE A FORCE AGAINST ADAM SMITH AND HIS REALLY ANNOYING HABIT OF BEING RIGHT!"
Re: yes times a trillion XD
Date: 2006-02-16 10:37 pm (UTC)His great grandson, the 3rd Marquess (founder of the Ailsa Shipbuilding Company- 1885)... It was he who displayed the 716 flintlock pistols and 367 swords on the walls of the Armoury in a most dramatic array. These along with the canon outside, were to 'fight off Napoleon', and issued to the local volunteer force The West Lowland Fencible Regiment. This force was disbanded soon afterwards and the Ayrshire Yeomanry was formed.
They had really quite huge lands in Scotland, from what I can tell.
Re: yes times a trillion XD
Date: 2006-02-16 10:49 pm (UTC)And. You know, I'd normally feel a little bad about investing Archie with these ritzy connections, but really, what the hell am I supposed to think? That first name! An allusion to what is probably his father's personal gamekeeper! A taste for theater and quoting Hamlet and those bonny good looks.
Re: yes times a trillion XD
Date: 2006-02-17 12:07 am (UTC)I think he does come from a wealthy background, absolutely. But I like the idea that the center of power/wealth lies in his extended family, and not his own immediate one.
Re: yes times a trillion XD
Date: 2006-02-17 12:18 am (UTC)Sorry. That made no sense, but I couldn't resist. Your icon tempts me into dangerous waters or something.
Re: yes times a trillion XD
Date: 2006-02-17 12:27 am (UTC)Re: yes times a trillion XD
Date: 2006-02-16 11:46 pm (UTC)Equivalent to £10,560,883.12 in 2004 money. That's a lot of haggis.
Re: yes times a trillion XD
Date: 2006-02-16 08:22 pm (UTC)*meditates on the hunting lodge and hunting and Archie's father, a la Men Who Follow Spring*
*tosses some American history onto the bonfire*
Date: 2006-02-16 03:08 pm (UTC)Pellew was in the Royal Navy during the Rev War and served in that theater of operations. The Kennedy family home in New York City was used as the British HQ in New York. There is also some family connection with the Duke of Clarence (later William IV) who was in the Navy in the Rev War as well.
It's confusing to me with all those damn ARCHIBALDS but the Rev War connection is here.
And good luck with your exam.
Re: *tosses some American history onto the bonfire*
Date: 2006-02-16 08:06 pm (UTC)That's the sailor king, right? The one that they mention in Hornblower as being the prince who later lets the Navy drink their health sitting down? XD
This interest in Kennedy is more than a little weird and entirely unexpected after all the ranting I've done about how he's not as fundamentally appealing to me as either Bush or Hornblower, but what can you do?
And thank you.
Re: *tosses some American history onto the bonfire*
Date: 2006-02-16 11:40 pm (UTC)I've never bought into the cute golden haired moppet with the sweet gooey center fanon Archie meself.
And being the junior lieutenant and coming up against someone like Bush? Who respects and admires the Navy for all she's worth? And hates that sort of babbling noise?
That little bit that you and
Kennedy always came off to me as someone who shouldn't have been in the Navy but had no where else to go.
Re: *tosses some American history onto the bonfire*
Date: 2006-02-17 12:04 am (UTC)I do think he has a mile-wide romantic streak though - not in the horrible modern sense of the word, but in aspiring to, and admiring, grand things. Joining the Navy, and his excitement at getting to go to war, seem to be a part of that.
Re: *tosses some American history onto the bonfire*
Date: 2006-02-17 12:41 am (UTC)And there was a lot of that going about during that time in poetry, literature, art, etc., plus the fervent nationalism and fear that the French were about to land on English soil ANY MINUTE NOW so yeah, a young man could easily buy into it all.
i am spammy tonight. :D
Date: 2006-02-17 12:13 am (UTC)adjgh ahahahaha. :/ No. Despite the sweet gooey center in the fic that I wrote today, no. Do people not see what a snippy, angry thing he is when, like, mobile and reasonably healthy? Did we watch different versions of Mutiny and F&L, muthafuckas?
Archie is not suited for the Navy, I think, in the way that Bush is, where life is tough and thems the luck. And he doesn't take to it by sheer dint of brilliance the way that Hornblower does, but he's got the requisite toughness and stubborness and love for orderliness underneath, and yeah. I think he's shaping up into a reasonably good officer by the time of Mutiny and would have been one much sooner if he hadn't had such wretched luck in the Navy.
Re: it's true, I never shut up. :/
Date: 2006-02-16 04:20 am (UTC)