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[quigonejinn]

Stronger (Harder, Better, Faster)

Tony Stark set to Kanye West and Daft Punk
XVid, 35MB

The song is on my default playlist, and last week, in the throes of full-blown fandom crazy, I started obsessing about what a fantastic track this would make for an Iron Man vid. And then one of the DOOMTHREADS -- it is 4:30AM, and I am too brainfried to figure out where, even with Gmail's halfway decent search engine -- somebody mentioned wanting to see it. And uh. I was too tired to write tonight, so here! HAVE MY OBSESSION.

Started at 10PM or so of Friday night, finished around 4AM of Saturday morning. Not much in the way of movie-independent storytelling, which is probably why it came together so easily. It usually takes me about eight hours per minute, but I banged this together in way, way under that. Think more like a 5:20 recap of the movie than anything else.

Comments

Re: TONY STARKS WON THE OSCAR, Y'ALL.

[amonitrate.livejournal.com]

re: lonely Tony...

I'm not sure he even realizes he's lonely. Maybe not until Yinsen calls him on it. I think his loneliness is totally unconscious, and he fills it with all that flash and wanting people to like him and strippers.

and it is about control. Because if he lets up on the control, people will see him as he is underneath all the flash, and we can't have that, now, can we?

Re: TONY STARKS WON THE OSCAR, Y'ALL.

[quigonejinn.livejournal.com]

Man. I just realized that at the end of the movie, with Obie dead, Rhodey is the person still in Tony's life who's known him the longest. And they didn't meet until Tony went to college.

I might be old-fashioned, but man, that's just fucked up.

Re: TONY STARKS WON THE OSCAR, Y'ALL.

[amonitrate.livejournal.com]

No, you're absolutely right, and that's a terribly lonely place to be. And I think New Improved Post Afghanistan Tony Stark isn't going to be able to pretend it's not there quite as well as he had in the past. Especially if/when he runs into conflict with Rhodey and Pepper, which is inevitable.

Re: TONY STARKS WON THE OSCAR, Y'ALL.

[quigonejinn.livejournal.com]

Especially if/when he runs into conflict with Rhodey and Pepper, which is inevitable.

Especially with Rhodey. Christ. CAN OF WORMS, GUYS. CAN OF WORMS. WHAT WAS THAT 10 YEAR, BILLION-DOLLAR DEVELOPMENT CONTRACT YOU SIGNED LAST SEPTEMBER, TONES?

Yeah, I keep wanting fic where Yinsen (heresy!) survives Tony's origination story. I don't know how that fic would play out, but man, it really seems as though Tony would be in a Better Place if he had a third emotional pillar or whatever.

Re: TONY STARKS WON THE OSCAR, Y'ALL.

[amonitrate.livejournal.com]

I'm pretty much convinced all will not be well with Rhodey. In fact, I'm trying to get at it a little in my current fic.

Because the look on Rhodey's face at that first press conference, and when Tony comes to him at the base - here he thought he'd got his friend back, and he finds out that like Obie said, Tony never really came back from the cave. And for Rhodey that has to really hurt, beyond the professional conflict.

And Rhodey loves the military, and is loyal to it, and I was saying somewhere else that it's going to head towards one of them asking the other to make a choice, and that's not going to go well at all.

Re: TONY STARKS WON THE OSCAR, Y'ALL.

[quigonejinn.livejournal.com]

and he finds out that like Obie said, Tony never really came back from the cave. And for Rhodey that has to really hurt.

Oh man. Yeah. You can see it so clearly, and now that we've been talking about how physical Bridges makes Obediah, it's interesting to compare Obediah's physical interactions with Tony and Rhodey's.

Is the current fic the Sentinel pieces? I've seen them, but after reading the first couple paragraphs of the first one, realized that I needed to save 'em for when I had more brainpower.

Re: TONY STARKS WON THE OSCAR, Y'ALL.

[amonitrate.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I'm working on part 3 of Sentinel. It gained a plot. No, actually, it didn't. It's almost entirely about characterization.

But yeah, Obie is draped all over Tony, and Rhodes is quite stand offish, with notable exceptions. I just don't think he knew how to deal with Tony post-Afghanistan. THey both let each other down, you know?

but that embrace, when Rhodes finds him... and the way he helps him out of the plane. It's clear he loves Tony to death, he just has no idea what to do with him. Not that TOny makes it easy, at all.

Re: TONY STARKS WON THE OSCAR, Y'ALL.

[quigonejinn.livejournal.com]

OH SHIT. I JUST READ SENTINEL 1 AND 2. AND. HOLY SHIT. HOLY SHIT. HOLY SHIT.

Re: TONY STARKS WON THE OSCAR, Y'ALL.

[amonitrate.livejournal.com]

eeek. I hope you liked it!

Re: TONY STARKS WON THE OSCAR, Y'ALL.

[quigonejinn.livejournal.com]

I am in the middle of leaving you the longest FB I have ever left anybody. Ever.

YES IT BLEW MY MIND.

Re: TONY STARKS WON THE OSCAR, Y'ALL.

[amonitrate.livejournal.com]

aw. Wow, thanks.

We can always tackle two meta threads of doom at once. That might be fun.

Re: TONY STARKS WON THE OSCAR, Y'ALL.

[dafnap.livejournal.com]

ISN'T IT AMAZING?

LIKE. IN EVERY WAY.

Re: TONY STARKS WON THE OSCAR, Y'ALL.

[quigonejinn.livejournal.com]

MY MIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIND.

By the way, I think that proper DOOMTHREADS need three participants. Two makes for a lovely, lovely conversation, but having one more person doubles the rate of conversation or something.

Re: TONY STARKS WON THE OSCAR, Y'ALL.

[dafnap.livejournal.com]

Dude, I just want to sit back and watch you guys go at it. This is like...brain porn or something.

See also: DEEPLY INTIMIDATING.

(the booze helps. :D)

Re: TONY STARKS WON THE OSCAR, Y'ALL.

[quigonejinn.livejournal.com]

The power of amonitrate's brain scares me. I think at any moment, she's going to realize how much cooler she is, take her awesome toys, and leave.

Re: TONY STARKS WON THE OSCAR, Y'ALL.

[amonitrate.livejournal.com]

Oh hush! Because this doom thread is the most fun I've had online in months. Your brains are so full of things I wouldn't have ever considered, about Obie, and Tony's fucked up family, and wow.

let's just say we're all mutually fangirling each other, 'kay?

also, everyone I know is tired of me talking about Tony Stark and his Robotic Ego Booster.

Re: TONY STARKS WON THE OSCAR, Y'ALL.

[amonitrate.livejournal.com]

you guys are making me blush. I just hope it continues to live up to this, since I only vaguely know where it's going.

Re: TONY STARKS WON THE OSCAR, Y'ALL.

[quigonejinn.livejournal.com]

AFTER READING SENTINEL 2, I HAVE FAITH. OH BOY. I HAVE FAITH LIKE YOU WOULD NOT BELIEVE.

I mean, I'm pretty sure Sentinel 34 could involve space aliens and manatee preservation, and it would still be goddamn awesome.

Re: TONY STARKS WON THE OSCAR, Y'ALL.

[amonitrate.livejournal.com]

omg, but then it would be Indiana Jones and the Crystal Skull, and I'd have to leap off a bridge.

but seriously, thanks again.

Re: TONY STARKS WON THE OSCAR, Y'ALL.

[dafnap.livejournal.com]

OH WHATEVER.

As witness to this post, if it's a thousand pages of Tony and Pepper being eternally frustrated and incapable of honesty, WE'D STILL BE HAPPY.

Who needs a plot when you've emotionally stunted pretty people, I mean really.

Re: TONY STARKS WON THE OSCAR, Y'ALL.

[amonitrate.livejournal.com]

heh. Emotionally stunted pretty people, I got in spades.

Re: TONY STARKS WON THE OSCAR, Y'ALL.

[amonitrate.livejournal.com]

forgot to respond re: Yinsen...

that would be interesting, because like I said somewhere above, Yinsen has experienced Tony at his lowest and weakest and has seen Tony in a long stretch without game face at all. I don't think he'd let Tony lapse back into it once he got home. And I think he'd try to talk him out of building another flying robot to solve his problems. Yinsen is really like the father Tony never had - one that actually tried to teach him how to be an adult.

Re: TONY STARKS WON THE OSCAR, Y'ALL.

[besyd.livejournal.com]

Yinsen is really like the father Tony never had - one that actually tried to teach him how to be an adult.

Yes! There's a scene where Tony just looks over at him, and you can see it. So when Tony had to walk away after Yinsen died, it was like he left another big piece of his soul in that cave. Gut-wrenching, I say.

Re: TONY STARKS WON THE OSCAR, Y'ALL.

[besyd.livejournal.com]

[nods fervently] Look at Tony's emotional reaction when Pepper "quit". No bluster or joking or act ... just honest reaction: anger and fear mixed with a dose of shutting down at the end (the old self-preservation kicking in because Tony so isn't use to honest emotion). I don't want to imagine how long he would have sat there or what he would have been like if she actually had walked out.

Re: TONY STARKS WON THE OSCAR, Y'ALL.

[besyd.livejournal.com]

And I was thinking today while watching that after Rhodey dumped him so spectacularly in the hangar, Tony craves attention so much that he would never bring that scene up and just go on like nothing had happened. ('Course, in the workshop he had a sum total of about one thing on his mind, but still.)