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quigonejinn*tramples over certain passages in the JA books in her continuing rage about lameass Jedi characterizations, stomps over other bits of canon, FUCK CERTAIN TIMELINES*
One of the things that surprised Obi-Wan the most about raising young Anakin was Anakin's habit of constantly stating strong preferences: he preferred chakka bread over darmel rolls. He liked certain kinds of jam, but not others. He expressed a strong preference for a certain set of pajama pants for no discernable reason besides the fact that they were blue and the other pair was brown. Each night, he would ask Obi-Wan to leave the lights on when Obi-Wan put him to bed.
Obi-Wan had articulated similar things when he was younger, but he assumed that it was a childish habit that one grew out of naturally. He had also thought that slaves wouldn't have and enough luxury in their lives to develop preferences, but it seemed that Anakin's mother had done her best. Anakin liked to have his sheets turned a certain way. He wanted a certain syrup on his breakfast food. He liked this type of hand tool over the other, equivalently functioning one.
"You are too attached to physical things, Anakin," Obi-Wan told him one night while they were having an evening study session before bed. "Attachment leads to possessiveness, and no Jedi has personal possessions."
Anakin looked around at their quarters -- he was trying to find some item in the common room of their quarters that he could use to argue back about, and Obi-Wan made a note to give Anakin extra reading tomorrow on obedience as a cardinal Jedi virtue, but the Temple-provided quarters were bare enough so that Anakin couldn't find anything to use. Sand-colored furniture. Sand-colored walls. The rug underneath the dining table was the same color as the carpet.
"Well, what about that?" Anakin pointed down.
Obi-Wan looked down and lifted his eyebrows. "That is my lightsaber."
"That's your personal possession, isn't it? And before it was yours, it was Qui-Gon's."
Obi-Wan looked at Anakin for a very long time, then, before he dismissed him for the night.
One of the things that surprised Obi-Wan the most about raising young Anakin was Anakin's habit of constantly stating strong preferences: he preferred chakka bread over darmel rolls. He liked certain kinds of jam, but not others. He expressed a strong preference for a certain set of pajama pants for no discernable reason besides the fact that they were blue and the other pair was brown. Each night, he would ask Obi-Wan to leave the lights on when Obi-Wan put him to bed.
Obi-Wan had articulated similar things when he was younger, but he assumed that it was a childish habit that one grew out of naturally. He had also thought that slaves wouldn't have and enough luxury in their lives to develop preferences, but it seemed that Anakin's mother had done her best. Anakin liked to have his sheets turned a certain way. He wanted a certain syrup on his breakfast food. He liked this type of hand tool over the other, equivalently functioning one.
"You are too attached to physical things, Anakin," Obi-Wan told him one night while they were having an evening study session before bed. "Attachment leads to possessiveness, and no Jedi has personal possessions."
Anakin looked around at their quarters -- he was trying to find some item in the common room of their quarters that he could use to argue back about, and Obi-Wan made a note to give Anakin extra reading tomorrow on obedience as a cardinal Jedi virtue, but the Temple-provided quarters were bare enough so that Anakin couldn't find anything to use. Sand-colored furniture. Sand-colored walls. The rug underneath the dining table was the same color as the carpet.
"Well, what about that?" Anakin pointed down.
Obi-Wan looked down and lifted his eyebrows. "That is my lightsaber."
"That's your personal possession, isn't it? And before it was yours, it was Qui-Gon's."
Obi-Wan looked at Anakin for a very long time, then, before he dismissed him for the night.
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Date: 2005-09-26 09:31 pm (UTC)Man, that was so good. And you can make a story about anakin/obi-wan seem more about Qui with just one sentence! Ohhh Obi, we feel your pain ):
Now I have this romantic idea in my head of Obi-Wan with Qui's saber', switching out the colorstones..making something of Qui-Gon's his with a massive amount of sad finality.
*types idea up and puts it in your "to do" box.
I expect that done and on my desk by morning, young lady! XD ehe
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Date: 2005-09-26 09:37 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2005-09-26 09:37 pm (UTC)And yes. We hatessssssssses Anakinsis, precioussssss. He tooked Obi-Wan's preciousssss precioussssss place with Mastuh.
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Date: 2005-09-26 10:11 pm (UTC)Re: *DEAD FROM CUTENESS*
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Date: 2005-09-26 10:16 pm (UTC)Also. I've been wrestling with my BT connection these days, and I found your old post about the wildly inconsistent speeds. Are you on a commercial service? I've been getting great, consistent speeds from Torrentspy, etc, but I know a lot of the .com's time-throttle the ports that BT works off of.
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Date: 2005-09-26 10:18 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2005-09-26 10:51 pm (UTC)Though I always thought Obi-Wan would be the picky eater. ;)
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Date: 2005-09-26 11:52 pm (UTC)Wanted to write in obi-wan's specific crystal's power, and qui-gons, and make them somehow complement one another other. Also wanted to explore the color distinctions on the game itself - blue being what, guardian, and green being counselor? I dont know how to make those work with the two in a romantic way, though.
god, renton. smoking. *_*
Date: 2005-09-27 01:33 am (UTC)And then I realize that I'd have to buy a system.
And then I'd have to buy a TV.
And I'd probably flunk out of LIFE.
But yeah. There's more than one good fic there -- you could go with the symbolic thing, which I THINK YOU SHOULD DO AND OWULD BE FASCINATING, or. I have this idea in my head where Obi-Wan wants to make it into a lesson for Anakin -- this is what the inside of a lightsaber looks like, this is how you clean it, etc -- but he can't quite bear to share something this personal and painful with the Brat.
I mean, as much as I like reading and writing stories where Qui-Gon leaves behind a SHITLOAD of stuff for Obi-Wan to go through, if he were strict Jedi, the only thing he'd really have is his lightsaber. So this lightsaber is the only thing that Obi-Wan has of his beloved master, and now he's got to change the crystal and make it fundamentally different and :/ Poor boy.
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Date: 2005-09-27 01:41 am (UTC)This fic actually grew out of me thinking about how a lot of fandom stuff tends to underestimate the culture gap between Jedi spawnlings/Obi-Wan's world and Anakin. I mean, aside from how Anakin turns out in the end, um, there is a world of difference between your average Jedi nine year old and your average regular nine year old. It didn't bug me at first, but the cumulative effect of so many fics where Obi-Wan is like *spoils little Anniekinsbabywoo* has made me want to SCREAM.
Er, that was a bit of a rant, wasn't it?
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Date: 2005-09-27 02:14 am (UTC)Nope, not a commercial service-- we have a dsl server in my house, and the connection is provided by the nacional phone service. For a while I thought it might be the ports that were screwing me over, so I went and opened them up via my Windows Network connection choices. Didn't change much. I've found, though, that if I stick to having only one bt at a time, then I get better connections more consistently.
My theory is that either my computer or our server has some firewall up that I'm too computer-incompetent to get over. There are worse tragedies. *shrugs*
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Date: 2005-09-27 02:25 am (UTC)I agree, there must have been an immense upbringing gap between Anakin and the normal Jedi-raised runt. The closest I've seen fandom come to showing Anakin's culture shock is in his fear of water/inability to swim. But... there must have been MORE.
Ahah. See, I can imagine that Obi-Wan started off or is, instinctively, a picky eater. But then he learns that it's not the Jedi Way to be so picky and stuff, so he learns to just shovel it all down. :D
XXD I don't know if you've watched Clone Wars, but there's this great scene in it where Anakin and Obi-Wan are on some horrid rainy planet with apparentely no food provisions. Anakin brings what he calls "lunch"-- a bagful of creepy-crawlies. Obi-Wan is absolutely grossed out, so Anakin eats it all himself. With much gusto. XXXD
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Date: 2005-09-27 10:56 am (UTC)Yes, I agree. A lot of fic never deal with those issues, or a lot of issues I like to see dealt with. And Obi-Wan spoiling Anakin is just... wrong. I think their base problems started in the beginning.
Rant on, my sweet. Rant on.
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Date: 2005-09-27 02:25 pm (UTC)"That's your personal possession, isn't it? And before it was yours, it was Qui-Gon's."
Zing! I can just imagine Obi-Wan's long-suffering look. Hee.
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Date: 2005-10-15 06:08 pm (UTC)Love the sand-colored description--it's just like living in rental quarters, everything is beige or some variation thereof, at least the walls and the floors and carpets; kitchen and bathroom items are white, etc. All neutral and therefore boring. Except for what one brings in oneself. *now starts to wonder if a Jedi's clothes, towels, dishes, etc. are his/her personal possessions, or are provided by the Order*
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Date: 2008-03-31 02:00 am (UTC)*Snerk* Obi-Wan is so darn clueless about children in general (and the mindset of a former slave in particular, given that the very lack of options would naturally lead to clinging to the few that remain. Duh!) that it's almost painfully funny, especially as he's just so darn charismatic and able to get along with everyone else. And I'm sorry, but he's got a point about personal possessions. The Jedi can say all they want about not having any personal possessions, but where do they think the money for their clothes, utilities, lightsaber components, ships, general travel expenses, etc., come from? Magical fairies who leave all good Jedi boys and girls all the things they'll ever need in life to be good little brainwashed servants to the Order and Republic? Give me a break! Either the Order has venues of income (perhaps tied to the initiates they ship off unceremoniously to the Agri-Corps and over Service Corps branches?) that aren't explored in the canon and EU because it would make them even more obvious hypocrites than they already are, or else the Republic itself subsidizes them, which frankly is even worse in my rather less than humble opinion given what that means about what they owe those in power. I get that you feel awful for Obi-Wan at the end because it's Qui's 'saber and all he has left of him and etc. but for all practical purposes the 'saber was his the moment he lost his own in the melting pit and used that one to slay the Sith. The Force put it in his hands, after all. No other Jedi would argue against that, even if someone like Mace might be tempted to grump about attachments. One of the first rules is that the Force provides, after all, isn't it, and so one should live in the moment?
And erhm yeah you might want to avoid that rant. Sorry. I just hate the hypocrisy of the Order sometimes. I agree with Anakin about a lot of the things he argues about, frankly. *Shrugs*