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quigonejinn ([personal profile] quigonejinn) wrote2008-05-26 01:18 pm
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Freedom Hangs Like Heaven.

Iron Man set to Iron and Wine.
20MB, XviD or play in VLC

I'm going to end up recutting this when the DVD comes up because right now, there's this CERTAIN SCENE where SOME FUCKING DOUCHEBAG decides to HANG HIS FUCKING HAND off the side of the CAMERA and then some other asshole walks across andf;lkjgdf. I couldn't figure out a way to cut around it, so that scene sucks. And there's one bit where Rhodey is a talking head, but I figured that I've wasted a week of my life already on this.

So yes. Iron Man and Iron and Wine with Calexico production. And just ignore the fact that they use the wrong reign/reins on that Forbes cover. XD

Re: second time through = golden. i'm thinking about going time #3.

[identity profile] quigonejinn.livejournal.com 2008-05-27 09:38 pm (UTC)(link)
OK. I know I am preaching to the choir here, but I need to get this off my chest: I loved Batman Begins. I have loved Batman since I started sneaking TV on afternoons after school solely so that I could watch B:TAS. Imprinting on Bruce Wayne is probably why I'm nuts about Tony Stark; I'm a huge fangirl for Liam Neeson and Christian Bale and blue-eyed boys with dark hair, too.

AND YET. AND YET. BB doesn't hold a match to the SHINING COLUMN OF AWESOME that is Iron Man. It's not fair to put Pepper or Everheart against wassernameicannotremember from BB because they blow every other female superhero character out of the water except for, maybe, the ladies from the X franchise, and in that case, it's only because Jean Grey and Storm and everybody's favorite formerly-married-to-the-cute-brother-from-Full-House shapeshifter have powers that are about 10000000x more badass than anybody else onscreen. Yeah, they're cool and tough, but their identities are based on their superpowers -- not being tough, smart, professional women like Pepper and UNLOOKED FOR BONUS OF THE YEAR Everheart are. Which makes me <3 them in for fic slightly less because it's easy to be awesome hwen you control lightning bolts.

Anyways. Even if you do a Bale v. RDJ comparison, there's nothing there. I love Bale and respect his work, but he reads flat as Batman. Which isn't to say that's not the way Bruce Wayne should be played because dear God, I am first abord the "Bruce Wayne is fucked up" train, but it also means that there isn't nearly the amount of depth and nuance in his performance. You need the thirty minutes of purple flower picking to explain why Bruce Wayne is where he is; you could just start with Tony getting off the plane, and I'd still buy the rest of the movie 125%.

And that is my piece.
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[identity profile] dafnap.livejournal.com 2008-05-27 10:12 pm (UTC)(link)
I AGREE WITH THIS COMMENT SO SO MUCH.

I am the same sort of die-hard Bat fangirl, which also explains why I pinged so hard with Tony in the first place, but the difference (and this is something that makes BB so joyless for me) is that Tony doesn't take himself too seriously (even when he really fucking should. like, oh I don't know, when single-handedly trying to turn the tide of a decades long conflict that has only been made worse each time a western foreign interest has tried to do the same, Tony.) Sort of like why I sort of fell in love with the Ultimate Peter Parker - his brand of funny comes from mortal fear bordering on utter hysteria, he's funny because he's scared shitless, because he's fully cognizant of the situation he's in (this is also what the Spider-Man movie missed: the funny. but that's another rant for another time.)

Pretty much the only parts I liked in BB were when Bruce was in full on boozy playboy mode (hitting on the secretary, crashing his own birthday party, etc.) which is probably why I adore Tony Stark and Iron Man so much, it manages to be funny, sweet, and deadly serious when it needs to be, never letting one aspect overshadow the others. BB didn't do that. BB just sat there, being way too serious for a story about a dude that immediately jumps to cosplay to solve his inner angst.

That, and how perfect was the opening for Iron Man? The first shot we see is the scotch glass, that touch of class incongruous with the military surroundings, setting off just how out of touch Tony Stark really is from the rest of the world.

...

We're all going to be fired, aren't we?

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[identity profile] quigonejinn.livejournal.com 2008-05-27 10:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh God, I cannot imagine how bad this movie must have looked in the beginning. Robert Downey Junior and Gwyneth Paltrow, directed by the guy who did a Will Ferrell movie (and OK, also Swingers, but I'm one of soulless that gets nothing from that movie). And it opens in Afghanistan.

And yes. Exactly. There's way too little humor in BB. It doesn't acknwoledge the fundamental hilariousness of ahahhah COSPLAY, as you put it, as a solution to the problems of urban living. Even when I was watching the movie, there are these moments where I had to actively take my disbelief and hang it up on a rack somewhere then go back to paying attention to the movie. Thanks to great script and the fact that Tony Stark has charisma under his fingernails instead of dirt and that Jon Favreau is SO FUCKING GOOD, I never, ever, ever had to do that with IM.

Also. Michael Caine dialed in his role from somewhere near the Orion Nebula. It was so painful to watch him not care as Alfred. I loved Alfred so much in B:TAS. So much. My fave episode, for years, was the one where he goes on vacation at Poison Ivy's resort with his galpal.

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[identity profile] gabby-silang.livejournal.com 2008-05-27 10:29 pm (UTC)(link)
THIS IS WORK. We are working on our BRAINS.

Also, a story about a dude that immediately jumps to cosplay to solve his inner angst. I fucking love you.

So I, um. Sort of like Bats? I mean, okay, so I loved TAS because it was fucking amazing, duh, and BB was everything y'all have said, but he just never got me in the comics, unless he was being funny in someone else's title or a group thing. That aside, I have on two separate occasions rented every Batman film, and some of the animated ones, and watched them back-to-back nonstop all weekend. Because I cannot live without superheroes.

And now, fuck me, I can't live without watching Iron Man once every three days or so.
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[identity profile] dafnap.livejournal.com 2008-05-27 10:36 pm (UTC)(link)
And now, fuck me, I can't live without watching Iron Man once every three days or so.

You are so not alone in that. I'm putting it on my iPod as soon as I get home. So I can watch it everytime I walk to work. So I can comment in threads like these, and then get fired so I can watch it on my computer at home. IT ALL WORKS OUT IN THE END.

Speaking of Animated!Bats, I'm in love with the Batman from JL, JLU. He's a bit more well-adjusted, but undeniably effed, and the way he plays off of Wonder Woman (JLU, by the way? Has some of the best developed female protagonists EVER. Don't even get me started on the awesomeness that is Green Arrow not even arguing with Black Canary about riding in the bitch-seat. He doesn't even seem to mind: he delivers this awesome bitch-slap of a speech to Superman, and then climbs back on board behind Black Canary and they ride off into the sunset. It's gloooorious. Longest. Parenthetical. Ever.)

That aside, I have on two separate occasions rented every Batman film

I kind of adore the Michael Keaton Batman something lots? He was mildly well-adjusted, but that scene with Selina on the dance floor, absolutely broke me. It was the perfect encapsulation on why Superheroes Don't Do Romance, but also why they should try. I'm quoting from my head here, so it's not completely accurate but "Does that mean we have to fight now?" kills me every. time.

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[identity profile] amonitrate.livejournal.com 2008-05-28 12:55 am (UTC)(link)
interrupting again, because you crack me up.

BB just sat there, being way too serious for a story about a dude that immediately jumps to cosplay to solve his inner angst.

word.